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    « Advice to Complementarians | Main | Greenbelt 2009 - Arrival »

    Tuesday, August 18, 2009

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    Rhea

    “I need to be born again,…. But if you tell me I have to be born again to enter the Kingdom of God, I can tell you that you have to sell everything you have and give it to the poor, because Jesus said that to one guy, too. But I guess that's why God invented highlighters, so we can highlight the parts we like and ignore the rest."

    To me the big problem with this is that there is an assumption that in both instances Jesus was only talking to one person (as in, what he was saying was only relevant to the specific individual that he was talking to). I firmly believe (and I think that it's clear from the context) that regarding the discussion of being born again, Jesus wasn't merely saying that that particular man needed to be born again, but that ALL men needed to be born again. In the other situation, I believe that Jesus was specifically speaking to that young man, and perhaps all ppl who love money over God...but not necessarily to ALL people on the planet.

    Dave

    Rhea,

    Having read one of Shane's books I am sure he does not make assumptions about being born again being for only one person.

    I think his point is much more about the universal nature of Jesus' ethical teaching as well as salvation. All need to be saved but also all need to follow the ethical teaching of Jesus.

    In other words Shane wants (along with Jesus and Matthew) to see Christians actually living according to the Sermon on the Mount etc. That is teaching for all people just as being born again is.

    John Meunier

    Really neat idea, Dave. Thank you for posting it.

    How did your score come out?

    Dave

    John,

    The score is private (as it was a group assessed score for the church). But it could be improved and indeed we are going to look at that.

    Sally

    This sounds like a really useful thing to do, glad you are keeping the score private.

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