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    Saturday, October 24, 2009

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    Olive Morgan

    Thanks, Dave. What a lesson for the church here, which is a much larger suburban church, where a few of its leaders keep saying that 'this church will be dead in 10 years' (because the majority of its congregation are elderly like me). But that's where they stop!

    I shall quote Wollaston this afternoon when we are having an afternoon session, with a former Vice-President of Conference, to discuss 'After the Centenary, what about the next 100 years?'

    Dave

    Thanks Olive.

    Say hi to Richard for me. We were at Manchester University at the same time and met through the Methsoc.

    Sure there are challenges about sustainability when a Church chooses to serve older members of the community. But isn't the need to focus on mission rather than on survival?



    Richard Hall

    Thanks for sharing that, Dave. I'm pleased to hear that Wollaston are doing well. I preached there once, I think it was a harvest festival, c.1988. I'm pretty sure I was still "on trial", so of course my being there would have been against the rules. Glad it hasn't done them any harm!

    Of course, Wollaston is home to Scott Bader, that shining example of industrial common ownership. Have you ever visited there?

    Dave

    Richard,

    I have seen the scars from your harvest festival, it is still a
    frequently mentioned hurt from the past. However, they are strong
    people and have survived reasonably well, although the councelling
    bill was pretty ruinous.

    I have cycled and driven past Scott Bader many times but did not know
    about their ownership. Will try to find out more as that sounds
    exciting.

    At5 this mornings service one of the very long standing members,
    Stella, produced a copy of the "Pictorial History of Wollaston" with
    several pictures of the chapel plus a photo from 1926 of the 1st Tea
    and Concert for the over 70's - still going strong today :-)

    This morning reminded me of an issue with busy small chapels - the
    notices take a long time to read and I worry that people may have used
    all availabe capacity to memorise them rather than my sermon!

    Olive Morgan

    It wasn't Richard Vautrey whom we had yesterday, but former Vice-President, John Bell, who gave us a very stimulating and challenging day.

    Richard Hall

    You didn't know about Scott Bader's ownership?!

    I feel deeply ashamed for not mentioning it sooner!

    Dave

    Richard,

    The list of things that I don't know is so long that it would not be
    possible to even start to list them.

    Methodist Preacher

    Dave,

    I am interested to know whether this is simply a matter of the congregation growing old together or whether they actively seek out and recruit people who are entering their 50s or 60s.

    If so, how do they go about it?

    A few years ago I went to a university reunion weekend and was asked to lead worship in the chapel. I was astonished at the large number who turned out and I know weren't in the CU or SCM thirty years before.

    So much evangelistic training and programmes are aimed at the teens and twenties, how do we get the gospel over to the baby boomer generation. I really don't know even though I'm from that generation.

    Just one other point: obviously lots of activity, much of it social and some amatuer entertainment. Could you elaborate a bit more on the spiritual temperature.

    Dave

    MP,

    Sorry for the slow reply. Had a few days away and then catch up time.

    I suppose part of the answer is that Wollaston have been doing this event annually since 1926, so nobody who does it now was doing it when it first started.

    It was clear that some people had changed roles since last year due to age and that younger people had taken over.

    There were also quite a few children taking part which is also something that has been part of the tradition.

    As for reaching people I don't yet know enough to be sure but I suspect part of it is excellence in community stuff. Not maybe very sexy but very significant in a tight village community (I mean funerals, weddings, baptisms etc).

    As for the spiritual temp it may not be charismatic but there is a lot of depth in the programme see Wesley Guild, Bible Studies, prayer time etc

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