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    Thursday, July 14, 2011

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    Chris H

    I had a look at that 'Resurgence' website you linked to and I was initially in two minds if it was satire. Some of what's on there is absolutely awful with respect to gender and sexuality.

    MadPriest

    We should be venerating Goliath then. I bet he didn't have a gentleman friend called Jonathan.

    Dave

    Chris, I haven't bothered to look much yet. Thanks for the warning.

    MadPriest, everyone needs a friend called Jonathan :-)

    john Blatzheim

    As a gay Christian I found Driscoll's comments incredibly insulting. It was the example of many effeminate, likely gay, worship pastors that helped remind me what loving God was really about even after I had tried to reject him. I'm not surprised by Driscoll's comments honestly, but it is amazing to see how many people, even those who likely wouldn't agree with much I have to say on the issue of sexuality, have stood up to him on this issue.

    I imagine I'm not the only less-than-macho man who has been inspired or encouraged by an "effeminate anatomically male worship leader." So here's an idea, why don't we all talk about those positive experiences as an antidote to the kind of attitude Driscoll has espoused?

    Dave

    John,

    Too many positive experiences for the space available :-)

    Seriously, I have never found the "macho" helpful in worship.

    But I would be a little concerned that it would be unhelpful to say "you were really effeminate on Sunday and the worship was great"!

    Sam

    Wow, hang on, can I just dissect your post a bit? You've quoted Driscoll saying that David was a 'manly man', 'killing people as a boy [i.e. Goliath]' and have made this comment: 'Given that David was also an aldulterer why didn't Mark Driscoll add that to the list of qualifications?'

    Erm...because adultery is a sin?

    You've then said 'the qualifications for being a leader of worship include killing people and committing adultery & murder.'

    Apart from the fact that killing people is murder you have snuck in 'committing adultery' as if Driscoll actually said that - he didn't. And wouldn't. Because it's a sin.

    Mark Driscoll is well-known for being overly macho in the way he presents himself, but when the only way you can find to criticise him is to (a) claim that he has said things he hasn't, and (b) suggest that the Bible should have said that David killing Goliath was wrong, I'm a bit surprised you don't trust your own convictions enough to rely on simple truth.

    Dave

    Sam,

    Driscoll said "I explained the main guy doing the music in the Bible was David, who was a warrior king who started killing people as a boy "

    It was not only Goliath that David killed. Just the start. Some of those killings were murder (remember the story of Bathsheba?)

    I am saying that Driscoll praises someone for killing people (which as we agree is wrong and some of those killings were definitely sin) so why not praise David for other sins rather than pick and choose.

    Rosalinda

    I was really confused, and this aswnreed all my questions.

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    Mark Driscoll should apologize for what he said. He is just doing this to promote his new book and website.

    Judy Sundstrom

    Sin is sin and when we start choosing what part of God's word we want to obey then we have decided we are smarter than Jesus. We need to humble ourselves and obey our Lord and Savior Jesus. God promises to perfect us if we obey His word, if we choose to disobey we are sinning. God is love and He showed us how much by sending His Son Jesus to die for us. We are to listen to Jesus and obey His word. Homosexuality is a sin so is adultery so is murder so is talking about our brothers so is stealing so is unforgiveness,back biting etc. We are called to humble ourselves repent and follow Jesus.

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    he should just apologize and get it over with. i think he is just looking for media attention?

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    In my opinion, Mark Driscoll has the right to do this as an individual. The thing that I don't like here is, he wants a publicity for his book and website.

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